Wednesday, September 14, 2011

Topic # 1 Same Sex Marriage: Should It Be Legal?

On WITN News, there is an article on NC Legeslation wanting to see what the people thought of same sex marriage being legal in the state. Here is the link to the original site:
http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/Gay_Marriage_Ban_Will_Be_On_May_State_Ballot.html?storySection=comments

Here is the story, word for word, just in case they take it off the website.  Nothing is edited by me or anyone else. Everything belongs to WITN and the Associated Press:

North Carolina voters will get to vote next May on a proposed constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage in the state.
The Senate voted 30-16 Tuesday in favor of putting the question on the statewide primary ballot. The number of yes votes was just enough to approve the constitutional amendment. The House approved the measure Monday.
While 30 states already have similar prohibitions in their constitutions, North Carolina is the only state in the Southeast without one.
State law already defines marriage as between a man and a woman, but amendment supporters argue traditional marriage would be better protected against potential legal challenges by same-sex couples in six other states.
Opponents say the question will diminish the state's business climate by perception that gays and lesbians aren't welcome.
(Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)



Previous Story
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) -- The North Carolina House has agreed to let voters decide next May whether to add a provision to the state constitution to make clear marriage is between one man and one woman.
The House voted 75-42 on Monday in favor of a measure that would make marriage the only domestic legal union recognized in this state. An amendment needed to receive 72 votes. The proposal now goes to the Senate for consideration.
State law in North Carolina already defines marriage as between one man and one woman, but supporters argue the prohibition needs to be stronger to protect it against legal challenges from same-sex married couples licensed in a handful of states.
Opponents critical of the bill in the three-hour debate called the proposal discriminatory.
PREVIOUS STORY:
Social conservatives wanting for years for legislators to act on a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage in North Carolina are heading to Raleigh, urging them to vote this week.
Several groups that support the ban planned a rally Monday morning near the Legislative Building before lawmakers reconvened at midday. Legislative leaders say they're prepared to consider a bill setting up a statewide constitutional referendum for 2012.
Amendment opponents also planned candlelight vigils in several cities Monday night and a Raleigh rally on Tuesday. They say the amendment is unnecessary, a political ploy by Republicans and discriminates against gays and lesbians.
GOP legislators now in charge of the Legislature say it's time for citizens to decide on the issue after it was quashed during years of Democratic rule.

Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.


Rules: No cussing please! That is all I am asking is that you post intelligent opinions and thoughts without having a potty mouth, ok?

Other then that, let the debate begin!


Edit:
My Personal Take

  I believe that homosexuality itself is wrong.  It is unnatural and causes more problems then need be, both in the family and publicly.  Just to clear the air, it is the homosexuality that I don't like, not the people themselves.  My personal beliefs (which is Bible-based, by the way) tell me that it is so. 
In Leviticus 18:22 NIV says:

22  Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

Leviticus 20:13 NIV says:

13“‘If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 NIV says:

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Romans 1:25-27 NIV says:

25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

Sodom and Gomorrah are prime examples of what happens to homosexuals, men and women.
Genesis 19:1-29

With all of this evidence before me, I must believe what it says.  Plus this comes from my own experiances with homosexuals, gays, and lesbians.  Often, as with fanatics, they get offensive, yelling, screaming angerly about how I am being insensitive and narrow-minded or just do not understand. In a sense, two of those are true.  I am narrow-minded to the things of this world, and I do not understand how you could be physically attracted to the same sex as you are.  The narrow-mindedness as they call it comes from my moral foundation. The fact that I don't understand is also from my moral foundation and watching others hurt themselves physically, emotionally, and spiritually.  Why would they do it in the first place?
Just out of curiousity, I would like some feed-back on that question, from those who are.
As for same-sex marriage being legal, that is unfathomable to me as a person who follows the Bible.  I do not believe that Jehovah made anyone homosexual, nor should it be legal in a nation that says it is "under God" in its pledge to go against what He has already decreed immoral.
For those who like to use the "but you are commanded to love others" thing, the meaning of love has many facets to it.  In Greek, there are many types of love, all apropriate.  I will do a blog on that later.  The English language does not do "love" justice in many ways.  The love that is talked about is brotherly love, compassion and kindness to your fellow human.  Just because we are commanded to love you, doesn't mean we have to like you though, as those things are two different but simular things. 
Anything else I need to cover?  Let me know, and I will answer to the best of my ability.